LoHP Chapter 70: Doubts

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Chapter 70: Doubts

“The heck!”

“Refuse? Brother, are you serious?”

Shang Bin, Cao Xiong and Shen Bi Ru tug on their hair, every single one of them on the verge of going mad.

The thrill that they have experienced today is much more than what they have experienced in their entire lifetime.

Who is Wang Tao? One of the top ten geniuses in the academy. There isn’t a single teacher who isn’t vying to pull him under their wing. Back then, Elder Shang Chen only managed to rope him in through exploiting his identity as the head of the Education Bureau…

A genius like that, accompanied with the personal plea from the Wang clan’s head… The hell, you actually refused it?

Shang Bin and others feel as though they have just incurred 10000 damage, and they find themselves unable to catch their breath.

Just a moment ago, he just criticised him for being unable to recruit students. Yet, the next moment… the Wang clan’s head sends his son over to him! However, what is the most shocking of all is that… he refuses to accept him!

“My heart, my liver…”

Elder Shang Chen feels fresh blood coursing erratically around his throat, threatening to spurt out at any moment.

Is there still justice in the world? Is there still law in the world?

I am an elder, not to mention the head of the Education Bureau. It is one thing that you withdrew from my tutelage to acknowledge a fellow who scored zero in his Teacher Qualification Examination as your teacher. The worst of it all is that he refuses to accept…

Elder Shang Chen feels as though his face has been torn off violently, ground and scattered onto the floor. At this moment, he wishes fervently for a hole to appear in the ground so that he can conceal himself in it.

Too embarrassing!

He feels as though his dignity has been thrown away all the way to his grandmother’s house!

Standing by the side, Elder Mo Xiang’s eyeballs are also about to fall to the floor.

Just a moment ago, his opinion of Zhang laoshi has improved, but by the looks of it now, it seems that it is still insufficient!

“Refuse?” Awkwardness reflects on the face of Wang clan head. He immediately shoots a glance at his son.

“I beg Zhang laoshi to accept me as your disciple!”

Wang Tao hurriedly steps forward, kneels on the floor and looks at Zhang Xuan with a sincere expression.

It is true that he has looked down on this Zhang laoshi before. However, upon seeing his younger sister’s legs being healed and an explosive surge in her strength, as well as recalling how his sword was clamped by two mere fingers of the other party, he is already impressed with him from the bottom of his heart.

“I refuse!” Zhang Xuan waves him away.

A student can choose his teacher. Similarly, a teacher can also choose his students as well!

Yesterday, this Wang Tao barged into his classroom. Not only was he disrespectful, he even pointed a weapon at him. How can he possibly accept such a student under his wing?

Back then, even though Zhao Ya had only challenged him verbally, she was still punished to clean the washroom!

If a teacher were to not have any dignity, his students will look down on him. If that’s the case, how can his guidance bear any results on them?

“I know that I was rash and I had offended Zhang laoshi, but on the account that I am still immature and ignorant of etiquette, I hope that you will not hold it against me!” Knowing the reason behind his refusal, Wang Tao hurriedly speaks.

The dignity of a teacher cannot be sullied. After he wielded a sword to attack Zhang Xuan, it is one thing for the other party to not to fuss over the matter. Yet, at this moment, he still hopes to be admitted under his tutelage. It is no wonder that his request would be rejected!

“Indeed, my son is ignorant of teacher’s greatness, so he was a little rash back then. I hope that you can forgive…” Clan head Wang Hong quickly explains.

“Wang clan head, there is no need to say these. I don’t think that this is the reason why Zhang laoshi refuses to accept your son!”

At this point, an abrupt voice echoes in the room.

Tracing the source of the voice, it came from the one who had just lost in the Enlightenment Will Trial a moment ago, Cao Xiong.

If it was just a moment ago, with Elder Shang Chen’s prestige and standing, he is surely able to annul the punishment for him. If that fails, he can also think of methods to drag the punishment out, allowing the agreement to gradually fade out of view. Yet, at this moment, the clan head of the Wang clan, Wang Hong, came over to beg Zhang Xuan. It is very probable that he would be unable to escape the punishment from the Enlightenment Will Trial if the situation were to continue on like this.

In any case, the situation is already irreversible. There is no need for him to worry about souring his relationship with Zhang Xuan even further.

“Un?” Hearing someone interrupt his words, clan head Wang Hong’s face darkens in displeasure.

“This Zhang Xuan only has the strength of a Fighter 3-dan Zhenqi realm whereas Wang Tao shaoye‘s current level of cultivation is Fighter 4-dan Pigu realm. Since his strength is unable to match up with him, how can he guide him or give him pointers? The reason why he is reluctant to accept him as his student is because he is aware of it as well!”
Shaoye -> Young master

With a savage expression on his face, Cao Xiong roars.

“Indeed, his strength doesn’t even match up to Wang Tao shaoye. To think that he would even consider accepting him as his student, what a joke!” Shang Bin immediately reacts and hurriedly adds in.

“Clan head Wang, please reconsider your decision. It’s alright for Wang Tao shaoye to withdraw from my tutelage, but if he were to acknowledge someone whose cultivation realm is lower than him as his teacher, it would be difficult for him to raise his cultivation level in the future!” A gleam flashes across Elder Shang Chen’s eyes as well.

That’s right, the Zhang Xuan standing before them only has the strength of a Fighter 3-dan Zhenqi realm. This is a fact well-known by everyone in the academy.

A Fighter 4-dan expert acknowledging someone weaker than him as his master, this in itself is a joke!

“This…”

Gedeng, clan head Wang Hong’s heart beats.

He has heard of Zhang Xuan’s incredible theories from Wang Ying’s mouth, but he doesn’t know his exact level of cultivation.

Although Wang Tao had attacked him before, as he had never told him about it, he isn’t aware of it either.

If what the other party says is true, and this Zhang laoshi only has the strength of Fighter 3-dan Zhenqi realm, then he is truly incapable of teaching Wang Tao!

It is true that a teacher who is knowledgeable in theories can impart them to his student, but only by cultivating it and testing it out first-hand will he have a greater comprehension of it. If the teacher himself has yet to reach such heights, then it is unlikely that he is able to teach them well.

This is just like in Zhang Xuan’s previous life. If the teacher himself is incapable of solving a problem, then how can he teach his student to do it?

There are many matters that a teacher is required to be precognizant of so that the student can take note of them while cultivating.

Otherwise, no matter how many incredible theories a teacher might wield in their brain, they are just like a reflection of the moon on the lake, unable to come to be of practical use.

“Zhang Xuan, even if you wish to teach Wang Tao shaoye, do you have the ability to? If you don’t, stop putting on an act here. With your strength as a Fighter 3-dan, you might be able to muddle some freshmen who have just entered the academy, but don’t dream about doing the same with the older students!” Seeing Zhang Xuan remaining silent, savagery and excitement gleam in Cao Xiong’s eyes.

“Indeed, clan head Wang. What Cao Xiong laoshi says makes sense. Zhang Xuan himself has yet to break through to Fighter 4-dan, so it is natural that he is unsure of the method of cultivation at that level. How can he guide a student’s Pigu realm cultivation like that!” Regaining his confidence once more, Elder Shang Chen says as he strokes his beard.

“No, your words are wrong!” Hearing the mocking of the crowd, Wang Tao hurriedly stands up to explain. “Who says that Zhang laoshi‘s strength is unable to match up to me? Yesterday, when I unintentionally offended him, I attacked him with my sword using my full strength. Yet, he managed to catch my sword easily with just two fingers of his. Such a feat is impossible if he is only at Zhenqi realm!”

“Catch with two fingers? Haha, Wang Tao shaoye, even if you wanted to spare him some dignity, you need to come up with something more believable!”

Cao Xiong sneers coldly, “You are a Fighter 4-dan Pigu realm expert and your strength exceeds 700kg. Furthermore, given the weight and the speed of your blade, even a Pixue realm primary stage expert will find it hard to take it on bare-handed, needless to say with two fingers… You can’t be trying to tell me that our Zhang laoshi, who scored zero for the Teacher Qualification Examination, has reached Pixue realm, just like the elders of our school!”

A sword is light and flexible in its movements, and the full strength attack of a Pigu realm advanced stage expert is fast as lightning. If the other party isn’t well-versed in the opponent’s swordsmanship and know precisely where the attack is going to land beforehand, even a Pixue realm primary stage expert will find it hard to catch his attack… Yet, Wang Tao actually said that the worst teacher in the academy managed to catch his attack easily… You must be joking!

“I’ve seen it too, teacher used two fingers to hold his sword in place!” Liu Yang explains in a fluster as well.

He has seen the situation that day with his own eyes and there isn’t any falsehood in his words.

However, given his high trust level in Zhang Xuan, the moment he says it, it seems as though he is helping him to cover up the lie.

“Clan head Wang Hong, you are a great clan of cultivators!” Ignoring the explanations of the two, Elder Shang Chen sneers coldly. “Do you think that someone who isn’t at Pixue realm intermediate stage is capable of catching Wang Tao shaoye‘s full strength attack?”

“This…” Clan head Wang Hong hesitates.

Catching Wang Tao’s attack at full strength with just two fingers, this is a feat that average Pixue realm experts will find difficult to accomplish!

This Zhang laoshi might have incredible theories, but to reach Pixue realm intermediate stage at such a young age… Even he finds it hard to believe.

After all, it is too shocking!

“Wang Tao shaoye, I understand that you said those things intentionally to bring up Zhang Xuan’s reputation because you want him to accept you as his student. However, there is a limit to everything. Sometimes, going too far isn’t good…” Seeing Wang Hong stumped, Elder Shang Chen opens up his arms majestically and speaks with a wise demeanor. Just as he is about to continue chatting casually with clan head Wang Hong and bring up some profound theories to prove that what Wang Tao said was untrue, he hears the voice of the teacher on duty sounding from beyond the room once more.

“Elder Shang!”

“What’s the matter?” Elder Shang Chen frowns in displeasure.

Didn’t you see that I am in the midst of zhuangbi?
Zhuangbi -> Acting cool, profound

How can one be so incapable of reading the situation!

“There is someone outside who is seeking an audience with Zhang Xuan laoshi…” The teacher on duty says in a fluster.

“Looking for Zhang Xuan? Who?”

What’s going on today?

Why is everyone looking for Zhang Xuan today?

“It is… the son of Zhennan Wang, Bai Xun xiao wangye!” The teacher on duty says.


Zhennan Wang -> The king who stabilises the North
Just like mentioned before, wang (king) is a nobility conferred by the emperor onto someone (usually members of the royal family). wangye is a name that is used to address them.
The reason why they call Bai Xun xiao wangye (Xiao means small/little/younger) is probably to differentiate him from his father. After all, his father’s surname must also be Bai, and he is a wangye as well. Previously, I used little
It is similar to how sometimes Junior is added to someone’s name.


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28 Responses to LoHP Chapter 70: Doubts

  1. lasiefo says:

    i love and hate the story with a passion
    reading it per chapter is unenjoyable
    it just doesnt work
    i guess 15 chapters need to be there at least for it to be enjoyable

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  2. udin-san says:

    Too much expectation pilled up, I know I’m going to be dissapointed.. Just resolve it already!

    Anyway, cheers for the translation!

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  3. Knutnputn says:

    Thanks for the chapter. Stalling is one thing, but to spend several paragraphs saying the same thing over and pver again from diffeeent perspectives? Kind of snnoying. Love the story though, looking forward to next chapter 🙂

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  4. Thanks for the chapter

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  5. DANIS says:

    Moarrrrrrrr
    Thanks For The Chapter 😀

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  6. :3 says:

    This situation is like shit hitting the fan then countless shits follow as well

    Thanks for the chapter.

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  7. phyrigia says:

    i like Zhang Xuan upbtinging. He’s like those number one grandpa stand on top
    Thank you!

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  8. xerafimy says:

    OHHH MY, some slappa about to appear. Bai Xun is not weak sause as Tao brat, he will definitly not let those arrogant elders to diminish Zhang laoshi!

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  9. agila0212 says:

    I thought you decided to not use anymore pinyin words? It is really disappointing when the MTL translate the words while yours, the official translation does not…. *sigh*

    It would have been more funny if you translated Acting cool instead of using Zhuangbi, now I have to remember another Chinese word.

    I am sure some people will again cuddle you and tell you not to listen to criticism but those people mostly dont care about quality translation. If you are only doing this as a hobby then continue on with your translation style, since most are just leechers, like me 😀 But if you are doing this to earn some extra money and attract more readers then you have to pay attention to the quality of translation. Not translating a word no matter what you look at it is a drop in quality.

    Thank you for the chapter

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    • StarveCleric says:

      FIrst and foremost, zhuangbi is more like a slang word more than anything else, so I have no idea how those MTLs hope to translate a slang word into something that is within acceptable quality range.

      Secondly, I don’t think I have used many hanyupinyin. I was intending to translate Master Teacher as hanyupinyin but decided against it. I have also reviewed quite a few chapters and changed most content to something more easily comprehended alr. Truthfully, other than the ways to address people, which is mainly centered 4~5 phrases, I don’t think there’s any recurring hanyupinyin other than zhuangbi. Other than that, there aren’t many of them, at least they are countable with a hand of mine.

      Thirdly, you shouldn’t really claim that they don’t care about quality translation just because they prefer to see hanyupinyin for certain phrases. It’s true that most of them are consoling me (probably), but there have been a few people who said they prefer hanyupinyin. Personally, I think that hanyupinyin to a certain level brings out a level of charm of Chinese novels. After all, some phrases just don’t sound the same in English, and while seeing it in hanyupinyin at the start is difficult, but I think slowly, it will bring out the tone what the phrase is supposed to convey with time. At the same time, I agree that too much of it just turns others off, after all, who would want to read a bunch of things they are unable to understand. So, I’ve been limiting it to a suitable level. (Otherwise, when you start seeing shixiong shimei shijie shidi shishu shiniang shifu etc etc, you will probably start vomiting blood)

      I am doing it as a hobby as I have free time, and it is enjoyable to see other people’s reaction to the novels I like as well, though I am trying to profit out of it as well.

      Thank you for reading :>

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    • Owl says:

      I would like to point out that using pinyin is the most accurate ‘translation’ short of keeping it in Mandarin itself. You could even say that the problem is not with the translation but with the …general knowledge of ..a particular reader.

      I actually do agree with you that inclusion of pinyin makes it harder for the casual reader, but when you start spreading insinuations, there is no way anyone can support you personally if they do not agree to the slander.

      Starve, sometimes, titles are best translated since they can be very contextual unless it is so famous that it no longer needs translation (right, onee-sama? lol) worst case, just give it your best guess or expand the title like Junior Master you mentioned or usually just Mr/Miss/Master (in the past, Master was actually used similar to Wangye, implying the junior son of a family, it’s just that it fell out of fashion.)

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      • agila0212 says:

        using pinyin is the most accurate ‘translation’ < LOL hahahaha I just imagine xianxia novels are now in pinyin instead of english since that is ’the most accurate’ translation hahaha I wonder why RWX and Deathblade are not using pinyin more than english….hmmm maybe they are not that good at translating?

        I am not insinuating anything. Those who prefer or dont mind pinyin really dont care about quality. That is fact and not an insinuations. I myself dont care, case and point, I already read all the raws of this novel, so quality is not really that important to me.

        Quality means the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

        Here`s a question. What other novels uses laoshi instead of teacher? Are you saying that those who uses teacher instead of laoshi are all lower quality translation? If you measure the two different translation style, which is better?

        Me suggesting to the TL to not use pinyin is not for me or you (since like I said I already read the latest raws) but to improve the quality of his translation. That is it! It is up to him to heed it or not since he mainly do this as a hobby.

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        • StarveCleric says:

          Just because it’s a hobby doesn’t mean that I don’t put my all in it.
          But I’ve read your opinion and did whatever I found necessary. As for the rest, let’s just agree to disagree.

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        • Owl says:

          agila, I’m not sure if you are stupid or just acting like you are. There is no ‘accurate’ about accurate since it IS Mandarin changed into English homophones without translation so how can you say the original is not accurate.

          What you are really complaining about is that it is hard to access for the ‘casual’ or ‘lazy’ reader like you.

          Don’t be so arrogant to assume that you’re ‘skilled’ enough to determine what is ‘quality’, especially since it requires someone who is skilled in both languages and even some regional history to understand how appropriate a translation is. Skills which you don’t have if even pinyin trips you up. Hell, Deathblade could make up a whole fanfic and you won’t even know it since you’re unable to even read the originals.

          Long story short, you’re only able to play on easy mode, so quit calling the easy mode as quality, it is dumbed down so you can read it easily, I know of the problems even those 2 you mentioned have with translation localization, some of which are actually inappropriate but you don’t see me bitching about it since translation is already hard enough without backseat drivers like you.

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          • agila0212 says:

            no ‘accurate’ about accurate < LOL again with contradiction and wordplay hahahaha

            There is an accurate translation to everything, you just have to understand the context of it all, in this case, the sentence. That is called 'translating'. If you are only basing on a single chinese word then I agree that there will be no accurate translation, but it is different in a full sentence since the context is clearly seen.

            You must have not read my full comment and replied in anger because I clearly mentioned that I was not complaining and just suggesting to the TL to improve his tl quality. You also wouldn't say I was a casual reader if you read in my comment that I read the raws, all xianxia novels I`ve read I also read all their raws. Is that a casual reader? FYI I also read English fantasy novels before even discovering xianxia novels… so yeah.

            Again, you are really slow *sigh* …. i`ll explain it again, Quality is not an opinion of a person like myself or any other but standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind. Get it? The standard already exist in the hundreds of translated xianxia novels, it is not up to me to determine it. The reason why I mentioned RWX and Deathblade is because they have the highest standard in translation quality, thats it! Are you saying that only those who know both language ‘skilled’ enough to tell the quality of the translation? LOL funny little guy 😀 It is up to the readers who will tell the standard quality, not the translators themselves. If that is the case then all translation are top quality hahahaha

            I already mention this before but seeing how slow you are I`ll mention this again. I was merely suggesting it to improve his translation quality. If you know a driver that is always speeding, will you tell him to drive properly or tell him to keep what you are doing? Who is helping who? The one who suggest to drive properly or the one that doesnt really care? StarveCleric clearly is smart/tough enough to receive constructive criticism. While you think he is not….

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          • agila0212 says:

            Before replying again, learn some important words first. I feel you really dont know what these words means so here they are:

            Translate > `express the sense` of (words or text) in another language.

            Quality > the `standard` of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

            Casual > relaxed and `unconcerned` (If I was a casual reader we wouldn’t be having this conversation in the first place)

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            • Owl says:

              Pedent. Low class lazy scum. Laughing monkey.

              You may sugarcoat your words but all that means is that you bury your arrogance, stupidity and laziness under a whole lot of excuses.

              I agree that some titles might be better off translated but that is for DEGREE OF ACCESSIBILITY and the degree of accessibility is one determined by the translator, not the peanuts gallery. Not ‘quality’, which is a mistake you seem to be unable to get. A translation can be hard to understand, but of good quality, or easy to understand but bad quality, real life examples being biblical translation, the first being something like the ESV while the other the ‘Good News Bible’. One is easy to read, but hardly rigorous in word correspondence while the other is a pain to read BECAUSE IT RETAINED THE ORIGINAL SYNTAX.

              You seem to conflate ‘quality’ with ‘accessibility’, a very layman’s mistake.

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              • agila0212 says:

                I didn’t realize that having a good grammar and a reasonable argument is sugarcoating my words, sorry I cant help it 😦

                That reply of yours… so many mistakes, contradiction and ignorance that i dont know where to start….

                I already explain the word “Quality“ a lot of times yet you still dont understand it…. *sigh* I`ll explain it again as simple as I can so you can finally understand it. First, the meaning of the word:

                Quality > the `standard` of something as measured against other things of a similar kind.

                Example: Most if not all translators translate 老师 as teacher, that is the standard. What happens when go against the standard? By the definition of the word, it should decrease the quality since its measured against similar works.

                The collective translators (to be specific, their translation works) determine the standard while the readers can see the quality of the works BECAUSE we know the standard. Get it now?

                You do know that by mentioning “DEGREE OF ACCESSIBILITY“ you just made my point right? Here`s another word you use but really dont know the meaning:

                Accessibility > the quality of being able to be reached or entered / the quality of being easy to obtain or use.

                StarveCleric clearly is easily able to obtain the right translation of the word yet still use pinyin simply because it brings out a level of charm to chinese novels, which I agree. (Having charm however does not mean standard quality, that is the difference) You should have known this if you simply read his comments above….*sigh*

                PS. no need for name calling, it only makes you look immature and uneducated….

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  10. jacobpaige says:

    And here I thought it would be the artist 😉

    I wonder if they’ll force him to use one of those pillars, and how much of his power he’ll hold back if they do.

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  11. kirindas says:

    Thanks for the new chapter! I always find it amazing how an author can stretch a scene so far. XD

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  12. ambi says:

    Thanks for the chapter StarveCleric, Thaddpole, and Tortex! Want to solve the misunderstanding with Zhang Xuan’s cultivation? Easy! Not sure why nobody has suggested they bring out a testing stone thingy and just have him slap it.

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  13. Dark Jackel says:

    The havoc is only growing greater… 😅

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  14. Boom-you-are-dead says:

    Ohhhhh god things are piling up and i know i don´t want anymore than this, solve this and go back to teaching!!!!

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  15. LaoNiang! says:

    So will he or won’t he….the face slapping here will be amazing!!

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